Survey comments
How satisfied are you with the
quality of the TECHNICAL education we currently provide to students in the
following four general programmatic areas?
Regular CTE
- Consultant
teachers have too many students, too big of caseloads; supervision is
scarce; some classes are too big
- Give
students more real-life connections, more links to apprenticeship programs
and employers
- Wish
there were more programs.
- We
need a computer class at Schoharie.
- It is
hard for students to meet their academic requirements at home and
successfully complete this program.
- Additional
career options as well as a larger number of class sections would be
great. There are more and more students looking to career training over
college.
- The
variety of programs available to Schoharie County students is very
frustrating and has caused a decrease in enrollment.
- I
think you could use more special education staff.
- One
difficulty is when we get a transfer student two to three months into the
year who could use Vo-Tec but the classes are closed.
- Additional
support to deal with students with higher level behavioral needs would be
helpful. I know the Myers Center in Saratoga includes this as an option.
- Programs
are not adapted in ability level for learning disabled students.
- We’ve
had some problems with students being closed out of programs due to lack
of space.
- As a
resource teacher, it would be beneficial to receive progress reports
directly.
- There
is not enough for students to do. Then they get bored and skip.
- We
would like to see some new programs relating to careers that support the
openings in the job market in our area.
Special Services
- These
students need to be taught hands-on skills that can be applied in the real
world. Future job placement for more students would also be beneficial.
- Wish
there were more options for marginal students.
- The
amount of consultant time special ed. students receive is inadequate in
many circumstances.
- Need
to supply a stronger, more supportive educational component to students
who cannot schedule their academics at their home school.
- It
would be helpful to have more communication with the teachers in regard to
the kids’ status at Vo-Tec.
- We
use BOCES programs when we cannot provide the services ourselves in-house.
- For
some students who may need to avail the services of the CTE center for
more than two years, there is not enough offered.
- Overall
experience is very good. It would be wonderful to have a
job-coaching/job-shadowing program for IEP diploma kids who are not low
functioning enough for a full Bernard’s program but not high functioning
enough for the other programs either. Would like them to have a few hours a
week spent on job-keeping skills instruction and then the rest of the time
at the job site with coaching.
- Additional
support to deal with students with higher level behavioral needs would be
helpful. I know the Myers Center in Saratoga includes this as an option.
- There
is a lack of continuity between home school and tech school.
- I
would like to see more communication between the consultant teacher there
and us here.
- You
need more variety of opportunities and variety of levels.
- Not
enough options, not enough modifications so that students can participate
in regular programs.
- The
Transition and Training program meets many students’ needs but there needs
to be a program that is one small step up from that.
- Would
like to see additional educational support provided on campus (e.g.,
special classes related to subject area, social worker).
Alternative Ed.
- Alternative
ed. needs to go beyond a resource room setting. It would be a great
setting for discussing future goals and brainstorming means in which to
get there.
- Alternative
Ed. has truly given students a chance at a future. Most of the students
would not make it in a traditional setting.
- Have
concerns about the academic rigor of this program, as well as the
depth/breadth of the academics.
- Career
options are too limited.
- These
are students who need as much structure as possible including expectations
for appropriate behavior.
- The
Alternative Ed. program needs a social worker or guidance person available
every day, all day. Very disjointed and nearly impossible to get immediate
needs addressed unless it happens to be the day when the counselor is
there. We give credit to the counselor for trying, but there is not enough
consistency for this population. Also programming for these students is
difficult. Options need to be available for the variety of students who
have the need to be in this type of program – and referring them to GED
studies is not the way we want this done! Our district was told that
students would be pursuing GED studies without consulting us. WE pay the
bill – we need to be involved in the decisions. For the price the district
pays for this program, we should be able to expect much more than
part-time services, minimal program, low communication and movement of
student to GED programs that we don’t necessarily support.
- Great
program. I have visited and spoken with various staff many times as we try
to provide alternative programming in our district.
- We
have an excellent working relationship with this program. Our concern is
for students who we know need the program but who do not want to leave our
high school and their friends.
- Students
are returned to their high school if they don’t work out in a short
period.
New Visions
- New
Visions has been a life changing experience for many students. Wish it could
expand to include more options for more students.
- There
needs to be more rigor for students seeking admission to highly
competitive colleges.
- I
know this is an excellent program, but our district has not availed itself
of these opportunities for its students.
- Nothing
is offered outside of the Capital District. Again, we pay the prices, but
are limited in participating because of the distance. Some imaginative
person must have some idea of a program that could be run somewhere other
than Albany or Schenectady.
- Our
guidance counselors speak highly of this program. One issue is some kids
may turn down the opportunity because of scheduling. New Visions conflicts
with advanced classes offered in the school that they don’t want to miss.
- Transportation
costs per student are problematic.
How satisfied are you with the quality of the ACADEMIC education we
currently provide to students in the following four general programmatic areas?
Regular CTE
- Feel there is a real need for these
options at the center – just wish the home school departments would accept
them!
- I am not sure these programs meet the
needs of students who need to pass a Regents exam in the subject area.
- The curricula is not up to NY State
standards, there is very little follow up, you do not communicate or work
very closely with special ed. programs in the schools.
- Students in this area seem to be
achieving well.
- The work has not always been at a high
standard or consistent in English.
- I wish our students were allowed to use
more of these programs.
- The English requirements could be more
rigorous.
- Additional instructional support for the
learning disabled and slower learner would be helpful. We try to support
them through our resource room program, but having the support at Vo-Tec
would be “closer to the source.”
- That do not meet the standards that we
set in-house and create friction with parents when we do not accept them.
- I have not seen the curriculum and am
unable to judge. Academic credit to be awarded needs to be determined by
the home school. It should be an option.
- We wrestle with the problem of standards
and the “magic” of CTE credit. For some of our students, however, it is
realistically the only way they can graduate.
- Much less demanding than the same class
in district.
- I am concerned that the students are not
getting a full curriculum of English 12. The students have told us that it
is not comparable to the difficulty of a regular English class in the home
school. Students coming from this curriculum may be at a disadvantage in a
college-level course.
- If students couldn’t get the credits,
Vo-Tec programs would be out of reach.
Special Services
- Students are able to see how the
academic subjects can be applied to real life.
- Time is the most precious commodity and
neither your nor we have enough of it.
- There is a need for greater support in
programs offered outside of the hime schools.
- I do not have specific familiarity with
the content of these classes. But I am glad they are offered because it
gives our students more flexibility in completing academic credit
requirements to graduate and still get a vocational experience.
- Additional instructional support for the
learning disabled and slower learner would be helpful. We try to support
them through our resource room program, but having the support at Vo-Tec
would be “closer to the source.”
- Test accommodations and curriculum
adaptation need to be done on a consistent basis. Teachers need to be
familiar with student IEPs.
- Not enough special education support for
students who require it.
Alternative Education
- You typically succeed where we have
failed.
- I have mixed feelings – some students
are getting what they need, others seem not to be.
- The standards of the state exam is good.
We appreciate your ability to be flexible in the sequencing of courses, so
students can maximize their time in the program. We cannot do what Alt.
Ed. does in this area!
New Visions
- Every student I have sent through the New Visions program has
done well – sometimes I think too well, knowing how they have performed
here. I suspect some grade inflation in academic areas.
- New Visions program offers academic
credit rather than CTE credit.
How satisfied are you with our
efforts to integrate academics into the technical curriculum?
- I
have not seen this happening. Most of my students are removed from the
technical component for academics, rather than having it integrated.
- It
would be nice to get specifics on how this is being accomplished.
- It
allows for a half day of vocational education to be scheduled and still
graduate on time.
- Do
not feel the grading is appropriate. For example, a 65 in Auto Trades
automatically means a 65 in English 12.
- I
know this occurs but I am unclear as to how science is integrated into
food services, for example.
- I
think linking English to an area of interest is a great teaching tool.
- I
would like to see more collaboration with teachers in the home districts.
- I
think you do this well.
- More
support for learning disabled and slow learners would be beneficial.
- Special
ed. teachers in Boces and district classes are not give ANY feedback on
how kids are doing in academic subjects; there should be updates or
communication rather than making the special ed. teachers guess how kids
are doing.
- We
are concerned about standards and the rigor of your curriculum. This
comment applies to all the courses that follow, because the credit is
given after the state exam year. There is now way of knowing if the quality
matches what we believe we offer at our school. Again, realistically, we
know some students need the integrated course to be able to graduate.
How satisfied are you with the academic rigor of
the following credit-bearing courses offered as part of the regular Career
& Tech program?
English 12
- Most of my students do not take this
course very seriously.
- It is often difficult for home schools
who require that students take English 12 to encourage that students do
the work at both Vo-Tec and here.
- Not enough time spent on ELA
requirements to meet NY State standards
- Could be more rigorous.
- Feel it needs to be locally approved by
the home school.
- There’s a need for more communication
with home schools.
- Students tell us they don’t do much
reading and are not challenged by the program.
Math
- As a student progresses through their
math courses, each is to be progressively more difficult than the one
preceeding it. I don’t necessarily believe this is the case with the
integrated third year math.
- Feel it needs to be locally approved by
the home school.
Science
- Fine but some students need option for
lab sciences to graduate.
- Students seem to achieve higher grades
with the integration of the technical program.
- Feel it needs to be locally approved by
the home school.
- Is it possible to include labs?
- Students at the Schoharie campus are
being pulled out for science when we were told it would be integrated.
Career & Financial Management
- Is this still required or phased out?
- Most students attending Vo-Tec programs
have taken this course at their home school.
Physical Education
- Too loose. I like the option because it
frees things up, but wish people had time to monitor it better.
- This program relies a great deal on
trust that students self-report accurately. That doesn’t always happen.
- Really…sign the paper, no follow-up,
very little physical education going on.
- Are students really doing independent
study? How rigorously is this approach
being monitored?
- Too many kids take this option because
it is an easy way to do nothing and get credit. Most parents will sign off
on anything rather than see their kid fail. If they need the credit, they
should have to take it at the home school. If their schedule at the home
school precludes it, then some coordination with the PE teacher at the
home school needs to be part of the mix, or the students need to
demonstrate to the CTE person(s) authorizing the credit that they have
done something, not just gotten some papers signed.
- Students seem to take this requirement
too lightly, asking parents to sign off on it whether they did it or not.
Maybe they need to set personal goals and be tested at the end of the year
by a PE teacher in the district.
- We really appreciate that you offer this
option.
- Allows students to have an option that
fits their lifestyle and is enjoyable to them.
- There’s a need for more correlation
between physical education and independent study.
- Too independent.
- I do not thing the independent PE is a
viable Phys. Ed. credit. However, we need the credit to make CTE an option
for many students.
- We understand this is not monitored much
at all.
Health
- Many programs do not accommodate
pullouts.
- From what I have heard from students,
this course has no real curriculum. You just pass a test to get the
credit.
- Too many “pull-out” courses” will take
away from the quality of the CTE course of study.
How satisfied are you with the
variety of career paths we offer your students (presently 26 regular Career
& Tech programs, 8 Special Services programs and 4 New Visions programs)?
- I
applaud the changes that have been made to keep up with new employer
demands and the changing workforce. Wish there were more programs.
- Get
rid of law enforcement, early childhood, floral design, fashion design.
Add things like plumbing, masonry, etc. The vo-tec choices should be
practical, leading to real jobs, not just “fun.”
- Would
like to see more options in New Visions.
- Would
like to see additional programs in the future.
- My
favorite is the culinary program. Your staff does an outstanding job in this
area.
- Without
extensive travel or higher cost to our district, the students in Schoharie
County realistically have six programs and one special ed. program to
choose from. There are no New Visions programs readily available to our
students. No one expects Albany students to come to Schoharie. We are told
that “opportunity” comes with a high price tag. Our schools can not afford
those prices.
- Nice
selection, well implemented.
- Many
students ask for a program involving animals in some way.
- A very
worthwhile program and opportunity for students.
- The
am/pm schedule does not fit with our block scheduling.
- The
problem is accessibility. You need to expand to create enough openings for
all our students.
- Not
enough special services programs in Schoharie.
- There
are a fair amount of special services programs.
How satisfied are you
with our efforts to teach students the “soft skills” they will need in the
workplace, such as functioning in teams, getting along with others, meeting
their responsibilities, etc.”
- The skills are not transferring to home
schools.
- I am glad these skills are being
addressed in this program. I know that issues with hygiene with our
at-risk students is of grave concern. I would like that to continue to be
reinforced.
- By running your programs like a job,
students are better prepared.
- This seems to be an area that has
improved recently.
- Good idea, but I’m not aware of any
specifics.
- It’s getting better. But students need
to know that attendance, reporting to work on time, etc., are critical
responsibilities for future success. Is that built in to the BOCES
program?
- I’d like to see a greater focus here.
- The “teamwork” skills should extend to
the CTE teachers as well. Special Ed. teachers are not informed on how
students are doing. Major issues are filtered back to us many days later,
when it’s too late to address the situation with our students.
- Was really unaware this was being done.
- I don’t see the carryover to regular
education.
How well are we doing in meeting
the overall (i.e., the career preparation, academic, and social-emotional)
needs of the students you currently send us in the following four programmatic
areas?
Regular Career & Tech
- I think career prep could be
strengthened for students who want to go directly into the workforce.
However, kudos must be given to the set-up of most programs. The hands-on
keeps many students in school!
- A full-time counselor to work at the
Schoharie site would be helpful.
- Need more work in meeting these needs,
especially social emotional.
- These kids are pretty well on their way
and don’t need much support.
- More behavioral support needed for some
students.
Special services
- These students have greatly improved
their self-esteem, which is very exciting.
- A full-time counselor to work at the
Schoharie site would be helpful.
- Very few of my special ed. students end
up in jobs related to their Vo-Tec courses. I think more job placement
efforts would be wonderful.
- The entire staff has bent over backwards
to meet emotional needs of some of my most challenging students.
- More behavioral support is needed for
some students.
- Students need to identify with the
special education teachers there and see their assistance on a more
frequent basis.
Alternative education
- A full-time counselor to work at the
Schoharie site would be helpful.
- Need more work in meeting these needs,
especially social emotional.
- At-risk
students require a social worker or counselor to be available on-site
every day, all day – not twice a week or when it is convenient. There
needs to be someone present who knows the kids, take an interest in them
and their unique situations and who the students can count on.
New Visions
- College
visits might be nice.
- Need
to deal with the high stress levels of these programs.
How satisfied are you with the way we communicate in the following areas?
Classroom performance
- I
don’t seem to get reports as I did in the past about individual students.
I find it difficult to contact people at Vo-Tec since many teachers seem
to be gone when I finish my classes at 2:07.
- Starting
to improve slowly.
- I
like getting grades and comments, but have been frustrated when trying to
get to someone on the phone.
- I
would like to have more personal contact from the teachers. I always have
to contact them and only find out there is a problem through interims and
report cards.
- Not
enough feedback.
- Needs
improvement.
- I
would like to hear more about things the kids are doing before they happen
(competitions, etc.) so we can encourage them, attend if possible, etc.
Also, I would like the communication regarding grades to come from the
home school, not from CTE directly to the parents. Integrated classes are
reported to parents and students whether or not we use them at the home
school. This can cause major conflicts and questions for the home school
that are not necessary.
- Teachers
and guidance counselors are always willing to talk but most times it is me
contacting them. I would like the written quarterly interims to come to
me, the special ed. teacher.
- Teachers
used to get periodic reports, but that seems hit or miss lately.
- I am
unsure of the amount of communication you have directly with the counselors.
- With
the exception of interim reports, I don not hear from the technical school
unless I call with specific questions about a student.
- Communication
seems to be limited to grade reporting.
- I am
hoping the program you are implementing next year will help keep us more
up to date.
- We
have excellent communication with the guidance counselors –
especially for alt. ed. and
special education students
- I
wish I could email teachers directly. It seems difficult to get a hold of
teachers.
- As a
self-contained special ed. teacher, I get no communication unless I
request something specifically. More would be helpful.
- Would
it be possible to provide grades to guidance and special ed. office
quarterly?
Attendance and behavior
- Usually
don’t hear anything till big problems. Sometimes it goes to the wrong
person to do something about it.
- I
don’t seem to get reports as I did in the past. It’s hard to reach
teachers after 2:07 when I finish classes.
- It
would help if there were more calls to the home schools regarding these
important issues.
- Starting
to improve recently, 2005-06.
- I had
a student suspended this year for smoking – and the only info I got was
from the student himself. Our building administrator and guidance
counselor got no communication either.
- I
would like to have more personal contact from the teachers. I always have
to contact them, and only find out there is a problem through interims and
report cards.
- Maybe
due to large number of new people at Schoharie and the lack of daily
guidance/social work person, the level of communication this year in
particular seems almost non-existent.
- We do
not get much on poor behavior.
- We
have had to upgrade the communication regarding attendance. It is better
now.
- Needs
to occur on a more frequent basis. We need to work as more of a team
rather than separate entities.
- I
understand the attendance reporting back to the home school is inadequate
and not timely.
- We do
not have quick, efficient ways of regularly communicating this. We rely on
phone tag, which is difficult.
- For
the first time this year, I am getting ISD notices. Thank you.
Policies
- Usually
good – sometimes I just don’t understand what the change is!
- English
requirement (3 years ago) was never explained to teachers who have day to
day contact with students.
- Getting
the information is not the issue – it seems that no one from the Schoharie
Count contingency is involved or listened to.
- Not
aware of what new policies exist.
- Plans
to distribute report cards directly from the center was not well
communicated.
- None.
I hear about days off through the students.
Programs
- Info
that you may send to guidance is not passed down to classroom teachers. In
the case of special education students, often this could mean not
graduating on time.
- Are
there new programs?
- Many
of my students have started programs only to find out they change – e.g.,
third year cos and second year of security. This often leads to difficulty
in planning students’ senior year.
- The
cosmetology test caught us by surprise this past year.
- Not
aware of any new programs at this time.
How satisfied are you with the responses you received from the following
staff members when you present them with a question or concern?
Director
- It
usually has been referred to someone else
Principals/assistant
principals/dean
- Deb
Kaplan is good about communication
- I
don’t think we have great communicators out here.
- Limited
contact with administration; only when there is a problem.
- When
I have called and spoken with the principal, I have been satisfied.
- We
work very closely and cooperatively with our colleagues.
- I
hope this survey went to others directly impacted by your programs as well.
Guidance counselors
- Usually
helpful. However, right now there seems to have been a change in which
guidance counselors deal with my students and I’m not sure who to contact.
- Excellent
when she is there. She is only part-time.
- They
do a good job.
- Gretchen
M. has always been very prompt with her replies.
- She
tries hard – difficult to do when you’re only here two days a week and
have to concentrate your efforts on the other center the other three days.
- The
guidance secretary is terrific!
- The
counselors are outstanding. They have excellent communication skills, and
they are incredibly dependable.
- Have
been very supportive.
- I
know the counselor at the center has a good working relationship with the
home school counselors.
- Jeannine
is great, always up to date, organized, and very helpful. All of your
staff should be so good.
- They
are outstanding!
- Great
job…always professional and helpful.
Social workers
- Didn’t
know you had them.
- We
have social workers?
- My
dealings have been limited, but my understanding is that he is an
excellent resource for our alt. ed. students.
Consultant teachers
- Communication
has always been through guidance office.
- I
have the most contact with Consultants.
- Have
been very supportive and always return phone calls.
Classroom teachers
- Sometimes
slow in responding – some hard to get hold of.
- I
find it very difficult to reach a classroom teacher. When I do get to talk
to one, he/she is usually quite helpful.
- Teachers
are timely and thorough in their responses.
- Some
are very hard to get hold of, do not return calls, are gone by 2 p.m., do
not reply to emails. Others have improved in this area in the last couple
of years.
- I
have always gotten good and prompt responses from the teachers.
- Can’t
always get hold of them easily.
- Left
several messages for a teacher and have yet to receive a response.
Clerical staff
- Have
only spoken to clerical staff to get through to someone else. Usually
pleasant.
- They
are always helpful and patient.
- There
is no direct contact about absences. Messages are erased. I called and
found out about 32 absences. Poor communication.
How important is it to you and your district for Career & Tech to
develop programs or strategies to meet the needs of the following types of
students?
Students who lose their motivation long before their junior year
- This population is growing – we need all
the help we can get.
- Crucial. I often deal with students who
are ‘done’ by the time they reach 11th grade even if they are
still in school.
- Ever growing population of students.
- I believe strongly that programs need to
be opened to younger at-risk students.
- Programs need to be local – not an
hour-plus bus ride away.
- Critical need.
- Home schools need to address these
issues before sending to the Career and Tech Center.
- This is a growing need in education due
to the increased amount of Regents work expected from all students.
- This population is growing both in
numbers and in the severity of their disaffection with school.
- This is critical.
Students who are failing mandated courses
- Very important for some of these
students to be able to attend Vo-Tec – if they can’t, they are strong candidates
to drop out.
- I am finding that students who would
benefit most from Vo-Tec can’t go because they have failed a class or
state exams and need to stay in the district to make up this work.
- The center and the home school need to
work closely with these students to provide support.
Students with scheduling difficulties
- This has been better in the past few
years – but would love to see the time come when they could stay at Vo-Tec
all day and get all their courses there!
- This is becoming more and more of a
problem as students need to complete three years of math and science. One
failure pretty much precludes them from going to Vo-Tec.
- This is important but cannot be used as
an excuse.
- If they are having a problem in this
area, the problem exists because of prior failure or other issues that
THEY didn’t take care of.
- Scheduling is very difficult.
- We work hard to accommodate that.
Students who are reluctant to leave their home schools
- This has really not been a large issue
the past few years – maybe it’s gone “underground,” as the students who
have these issues are not even talking about being interested in these
programs.
- This is a real problem for some of my
students, when coupled with a negative perception of the students who do
go to Vo-Tec.
- They need to make the choice – sometimes
you can’t have it all.
- It is important for students to feel
comfortable on their campus.
Students who are not interested in the fields we offer
- These kids are from all ability level –
would like to see more for the “higher” as well as the “lower” students.
- I sometimes have students who are
interested in a field, such as the arts, and are unable to find a Vo-Tec
program that meets their needs.
- There is a wide variety.
- Relevant programming in the center
closest to the student would help.
Students who have little or no idea of what they want
- Vo-Tec can inspire!
- Again, a real problem for some students.
Are there other needs that you
believe we should be meeting?
·
Job placement, apprenticeships, more college credit
courses.
·
Middle school alternative programs
·
Help for students who are having difficulty meeting the
graduation standards.
·
There are a group of students who are just not sure
what they want to do with their lives but do take school seriously. You might
want to offer a way to explore some of the career options in a hands-on
program.
·
State diploma is biased against vocational and favors
college prep.
·
Issues specific to students from poor socio-economic
backgrounds and related problems.
·
We need to address needs from the district first.
·
The need to improve communication with home schools
·
Vo-Tec should work more closely with day-hab programs
and post high school employment sites. Perhaps opportunities to sample more of
a variety of careers would help to transition students into authentic jobs where
they will actually be employed.
·
Set up more work-study programs.
·
Students who are unsuccessful in alt. ed. – we need to
plan for them other than returning to their home school, which we all know
doesn’t work.
·
New Visions students who need upper level math and
science for college admissions but can’t fit them into their home school
schedule due to lack of time after New Visions day.
·
Integrated social studies in the curriculum for
seniors.
·
Possibly an art class, maybe graphic art design.
·
Students with higher behavioral needs and poor
attendance.
·
Many students are asking for programs involving
animals. There is also a need for some level of cosmetology for students with
lower academic skills.
·
More for students who can not achieve a Regents
diploma.
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There must be additional programming, especially for
careers of the 21st century.
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An alt ed. option for middle school. We are losing
students due to retention at the elementary/middle school level. By the time
they reach high school, their motivation to continue is minimal. Prevention and
success at earlier ages would be highly beneficial.
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Some students
in special services programs have a lot of down time.
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More programs
for the student who enjoys hands-on classes but may not be academically
motivated. Too many programs have applications and GPA cut-offs.
We are looking at many different
ideas for changing and improving Career & Technical Education in the
Capital Region. Please rank each one in terms of priority to your district or
your students.
A combination of full- and half-day programs
- Cost will be a concern for our district.
- Grades 9 and 10 lack maturity and
fundamental academics.
- I strongly believe that many students
would benefit from entering a program in the ninth grade.
- Excellent idea!
- It only works if you are addressing ALL
of the areas of need, not just the career and technical aspect.
- I would love to have programs for 9th
graders who are disengaged from the learning process.
- I am unsure that our district would be
willing to pay for many full-day students.
- Although I think this is a good idea, I
do not think my district could afford to participate in it.
- We need help at the 7th and 8th
grade level before the students become thoroughly discouraged and make a
plan to drop out when they are 16.
- An interesting idea, but not sure how it
would accommodate students with special needs.
- BOCES and CTE were designed to provide
services the home school can not offer. The intention was never to replace
or duplicate the services we provide.
- We offer Vo-Tec to 11th and
12th graders only.
- Great idea!
Two-year full-day career academies
- Another excellent idea!
- I am unsure that our district would be
willing to pay for many full-day students.
- Sounds great. Again, cost would be a
factor.
- Need the specifics to see the model for
delivery of such a program.
- Space in home school is limited.
- This would be interesting!
Internet-based courses
- Students would be missing out on the
“soft skills” of learning to interact with others and work as teams.
- This would be an interesting idea, but
motivation is a serious factor that needs to be addressed. Working from
home will be challenging for many of my students.
- I believe Internet courses have a place
in education, as long as it is combined with classroom experiences.
- Our students need opportunities to
interact with other peers and staff. In fact, this one of the most
challenging aspects of employment.
- These are already available through
other sources. Why duplicate? The target students need more assistance
from LIVE people.
- I currently teach an online course. It
is a great tool, yet the course moves extremely fast. Students would need
to be able to work at their own pace.
- Online courses are being explored by
many schools.
Late afternoon, evening, weekend and summer courses
- This may be a solution for some
students.
- Great idea…we have a lot of students who
are limited based on the amount of time vs. the number of credits that
they must receive in order to graduate.
- Back in the 1970s, there used to be a
third shift (believe it or not) that was perfect for our students. I would
love to see it return.
- Don’t see our inner city population of
students willing to attend during the summer or weekends unless there was
a paid component to it.
- Depending on cost, transportation, etc.,
this may be an option to consider.
- We should all be looking to expand our
notions of time in the school “day.”
Additional programs in business settings
- So important!
- Definitely!
- This is especially important for the
Special Education programs.
- We offer these kinds of programs to our
students at the home school.
- Allows for students to transition into
jobs.
- Many home schools offer solid work-based
programs. Again, services should not be duplicated.
Closer partnerships with colleges
- Is it really an associates degree if
it’s earned in high school?
- College credit, but not an AA degree.
- Maybe house some of those programs at
the area community colleges.
- Creating stronger secondary connections
to post-secondary programs is very important.
Better career and educational planning
- Would be helpful if you could partner
with home high school guidance counselor.
- Would it get a full-time guidance person
into Schoharie?
- Some programs seem to get student hopes
up when visiting competitive, 4-year schools (e.g. FIT) rather than visit
more realistic college choices.
- The standard Singer evaluation is of
limited assistance.
- There is only so much time in the day.
Many of these services are provided through counselors at the home school.
Services should not be duplicated.
- I think it is pretty good right now.
Do you have other ideas for
changing and improving career & technical education?
- A reality class for students who don’t
think school is important could be a great dropout prevention technique. I
applaud you for this. We could all stand some improvement. Think you do a
great job now – can’t wait to see the improvement.
- Practical opportunities for jobs that
will be in demand and available for 18-year-olds. There will have to be
tough decisions made if you are serious about changing and improving. Do
we need 50 new cosmetologists in this area every year? Do you law
enforcement grads regularly get jobs in the field? Do the early childhood
grads have qualifications to do more than assist at a daycare? Why should
a school district spend $7,000 for fashion design?
- I feel that a lot of good things are
happening right now.
- Improved communication of what is
offered, how it is delivered, student progress, behaviors, etc.
- Please include students with multiple
and moderately severe disabilities in this endeavor.
- One the job training and bringing in
business owners to tell the students what it takes to make it in their
profession, etc.
- Schoharie may be out here in the
boonies, but our money is just as green and our students are deserving. I
understand there are many factors…it is just frustrating.
- Don’t cut programs. Students who have
little motivation and poor grades often turn themselves around and do
fabulously. These students can come out of school with a skill and be able
to make decent money, which many kids in high school all day can’t do.
Many go on to college, when at one time they talked about dropping out.
- Focus on designing services and programs
that cannot be offered through the home school. The AYES program is an
excellent example.
- More direct intervention with individual
students, rather than just calling the home school. Later application
dates – starting in March.
- I believe the best mix is going to be
some half-day programs and some full-day programs for students who need
more classes for graduation. Yet we will still have some students who are
on target and just need a career piece and then be able to return to their
home school. A combination of what we have and a full-day program would be
idea.